Just to clarify Shrek - the Death Valley Stage Race does go into the Valley of Death on Day 1, albeit at the far northern end. The start near Big Pine heads over the mountains and down into northern Death Valley, then back to the top of the pass for the finish.
Of course, those who want to really ride through that valley should try the Furnace Creek 508... :shock:
Yes, a series!
That way, early season events would count, too. Not just who has their climbing legs in mid-summer.
If based on results alone (no scorekeepers at any summits), a KOM series could be created even if it's unofficial. Start by listing the relevant courses, and perhaps ranking them and assigning point values.
As a Clydesdale&1/2 myself, I have a ton of respect for anyone--who has the guts to do this. But also, I see events like Orosi RR (one of the most beautiful courses I've ever seen) have trouble getting fields and possibly being discontinued, while Snelling-Merco for example are busting at the seams (sorry for that metaphor, Clydesdales). A KOM series might give a participation boost to some worthy but less popular races.
BTW, the promoter of Everest has recently had a permit approved for the Death Valley Stage Race in mid-June. (We're hoping the webmaster can get all of these added to the calendar soon.) Same territory (no, it's not really down in the valley of deathly heat), climbing emphasis and 2-day format as the Everest event.
velogirl wrote:I actually think a climbing series championship would be really cool -- for you climber types, of course! since climbs have distinct personalities that cater to different types of riders, a series would truly identify a champion.
Lorri
can provide a scale at registration for Clydesdales, too....lol no reason we can't have our own catagory.
I actually think a climbing series championship would be really cool -- for you climber types, of course! since climbs have distinct personalities that cater to different types of riders, a series would truly identify a champion.
djconnel wrote:In the spirit of the Low-Key Hillclimbs, I think Tam makes a fantastic first choice, but it would be nice if the championship moved around year to year. There's so many climbs from which to choose, each with their own unique character.
Hmmmmm, now you've got me thinking about a few climbs in the Sierra Foothills area that would be great for an Championship.
In the spirit of the Low-Key Hillclimbs, I think Tam makes a fantastic first choice, but it would be nice if the championship moved around year to year. There's so many climbs from which to choose, each with their own unique character.
Everest got the designation as " State" hill climb championship back when NCNCA was doing our own racing program and the event was then a S. Cal race. After NCNCA started doing USAC races again I said I didn't have a problem with Everest being the "State" climbing championship as long as we didn't have a Nor Cal climbing championship ( or have interest from a Nor Cal promoter in hosting such a championship).
After the border change a couple years ago Everest is now in the NCNCA territory and thus a Nor Cal event so the climbing championship should be open for bidding just like any other of the NCNCA championship events.
As road VP, I've been trying to determine if we've ever had a district climbing championships & if not, what would need to be done to have a race designated as such.
Everest is a great event, but I've long wondered why it is considered the State Climbing Championships? In the rest of the world, the climbing championships involve starting at the bottom of a hill and climbing to the top. Think: Fremont, Mt Tam, Mt Diablo. Not a multi-day, multi-peak, death march.
Still, as a multi-day, multi-peak Death March it's pretty cool, although I wish it were earlier in the year, less susceptible to nasty weather in the high Eastern Sierra.
I know the same promoter has scheduled the Death Valley Stage Race(s) in June and October, but am not sure about the Everest Challenge. I tried the website but it's still got the '09 information up.
slowpoke wrote:Hmmmmm, now you've got me thinking about a few climbs in the Sierra Foothills area that would be great for an Championship.
I'd love to put Nix Canyon in the Low-Key series. It's a bit far of field for the regular crowd, though.
Not Sierra Foothills, but still.... it would be great to have a race there.
Just to clarify Shrek - the Death Valley Stage Race does go into the Valley of Death on Day 1, albeit at the far northern end. The start near Big Pine heads over the mountains and down into northern Death Valley, then back to the top of the pass for the finish.
Of course, those who want to really ride through that valley should try the Furnace Creek 508... :shock:
Tim
A day that I'm on the bike is a good day.
Yes, a series!
That way, early season events would count, too. Not just who has their climbing legs in mid-summer.
If based on results alone (no scorekeepers at any summits), a KOM series could be created even if it's unofficial. Start by listing the relevant courses, and perhaps ranking them and assigning point values.
As a Clydesdale&1/2 myself, I have a ton of respect for anyone--who has the guts to do this. But also, I see events like Orosi RR (one of the most beautiful courses I've ever seen) have trouble getting fields and possibly being discontinued, while Snelling-Merco for example are busting at the seams (sorry for that metaphor, Clydesdales). A KOM series might give a participation boost to some worthy but less popular races.
BTW, the promoter of Everest has recently had a permit approved for the Death Valley Stage Race in mid-June. (We're hoping the webmaster can get all of these added to the calendar soon.) Same territory (no, it's not really down in the valley of deathly heat), climbing emphasis and 2-day format as the Everest event.
-GreggD
velogirl wrote:I actually think a climbing series championship would be really cool -- for you climber types, of course! since climbs have distinct personalities that cater to different types of riders, a series would truly identify a champion.
Lorri
can provide a scale at registration for Clydesdales, too....lol no reason we can't have our own catagory.
a series adds an interesting touch.
slowpoke
I actually think a climbing series championship would be really cool -- for you climber types, of course! since climbs have distinct personalities that cater to different types of riders, a series would truly identify a champion.
Lorri
Lorri Lee Lown
http://www.velogirls.com
djconnel wrote:In the spirit of the Low-Key Hillclimbs, I think Tam makes a fantastic first choice, but it would be nice if the championship moved around year to year. There's so many climbs from which to choose, each with their own unique character.
Hmmmmm, now you've got me thinking about a few climbs in the Sierra Foothills area that would be great for an Championship.
slowpoke
In the spirit of the Low-Key Hillclimbs, I think Tam makes a fantastic first choice, but it would be nice if the championship moved around year to year. There's so many climbs from which to choose, each with their own unique character.
Mt Tam is a great idea.
CPhipps wrote:So, do any hill climb promoters out there want to host the NCNCA championships?
Yes, Tam! But only once we know CA won't yank the permit out from under us...I'll try to find out ASAP.
And would be cool to keep Everest as a State champ and have as prizes a couple nights in the Bishop Best Western.
-Tad
Co-director, Golden Gate Velo
Thanks Casey!
So, do any hill climb promoters out there want to host the NCNCA championships?
Chris
Chris
http://twitter.com/cpbike
Chris,
Everest got the designation as " State" hill climb championship back when NCNCA was doing our own racing program and the event was then a S. Cal race. After NCNCA started doing USAC races again I said I didn't have a problem with Everest being the "State" climbing championship as long as we didn't have a Nor Cal climbing championship ( or have interest from a Nor Cal promoter in hosting such a championship).
After the border change a couple years ago Everest is now in the NCNCA territory and thus a Nor Cal event so the climbing championship should be open for bidding just like any other of the NCNCA championship events.
Perhaps it should be called "Multi-peak Death March State Championship".
As road VP, I've been trying to determine if we've ever had a district climbing championships & if not, what would need to be done to have a race designated as such.
Chris
http://twitter.com/cpbike
Good idea. I offer my humble services to anyone who wants to run with this idea.
I suppose one could always put in a competing bid to promote the *true* State Climbing championship. :)
Everest is a great event, but I've long wondered why it is considered the State Climbing Championships? In the rest of the world, the climbing championships involve starting at the bottom of a hill and climbing to the top. Think: Fremont, Mt Tam, Mt Diablo. Not a multi-day, multi-peak, death march.
Still, as a multi-day, multi-peak Death March it's pretty cool, although I wish it were earlier in the year, less susceptible to nasty weather in the high Eastern Sierra.
Registration is open. Race is Sept 25-26 (sat-sun).
http://www.bikereg.com/events/register.asp?eventid=9304
Reverend Dr. Jay
I know the same promoter has scheduled the Death Valley Stage Race(s) in June and October, but am not sure about the Everest Challenge. I tried the website but it's still got the '09 information up.
Tim
A day that I'm on the bike is a good day.