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In case anyone hasn't heard the show: http://ow.ly/1nXfQ another moron suggests running over cyclists.

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Just an coincidental accident or listner of ESPN radion? http://www.modbee.com/2010/03/23/1099913/modesto-cyclist-dies-in-auto-co... Wonder if Mr Foltz's family and friends would be so forgiving and dismissive of the ESPN Radio show?

Here's an excerpt from our clubs e-mail after this article came out:
Another Fellow Velo, Lee Koch(Cook)was hit in the same vicinity around the same time. He is at Memorial Hospital, Room S3309 with some broken ribs and a few other injuries from which he will recover soon.

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The Truth.

Have you said things trying to perform life that you wish you hadn't said, on the radio, in front of possibly hundreds of thousands?
Would, given the audience, you say something on air you thought might bring harm to people?
If you just said you were sorry, would you expect to be forgiven by people who had friends and family who were injured or killed by the methods you were suggesting?
I believe that since they (the show hosts) expect to make money trying to incite listeners, who are possibly already frustrated sitting in their cars during a four hour Monday commute, they should also expect to lose money from people who disagree with suggestions of violent suprise attacks "because a cyclist once held me up." Or "they always roll through stop-signs."
Imagine if they had said something like "All (fill in any ethnicity here) people roll through stop signs." "The next time you see one of them, try to scare them or throw something at them or bump them with you car."
Would they dare speak out against any Catholics? Jews? Muslims? Would they approve of and suggest to violent harm them?
NO! BECAUSE THEY WOULD LOSE REVENUE!!!
Man up I say! Make ONE call to ONE of their sponsors! Make a difference. You might be saving yourself.
Maybe if you don't care, you can still read the story below and get why we, the ones who ride, should stand up and do SOMETHING.
http://www.sierraexpressteam.org/Jimmy.htm

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moronic thread?

Hey Earnie - I assume you don't mean us! :)

I am not saying what he said was ok - but it is clear that the moron doesn't truly believe what he said, that is, he does NOT advocate running down cyclists. While attempting to perform a radio show, he said something really stupid and inflammatory. When asked to think about it, he realized he did not really feel that way - and made a pretty good attempt to make amends. So, we can go ahead and not listen to the show we were not listening to in the first place. Now, if he said, "Yes, upon further reflection, I DO feel we should just run 'em down." I'd be the first to flame ESPN Radio and even the advertisers.

While attempting to perform life, I have said quite a few things I do not actually believe myself and some were probably offensive to somebody.

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Morons say and do moronics things...this is a perfect example

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the problem with these kinds of hate jocks is that just because they "saw the light" and apologized for their improper comments, that doesn't mean that all their audience heard them "take it back" the next day.

meaning, it only takes one person to act on their suggestions to be a horrible tragedy.

in my opinion, anyone who advocates violence against anyone whether it be an ethnic group, cyclists, or anyone else at risk should be, at a minimum, fired.

and we should let the tv or radio show or whatever media is involved know that we expect it. and that we've stopped listening to them. and told our many cycling friends to turn them off. etc.

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Was that IT?

The guy advocates the killing of cyclists, gets an appropriately HUGE amount of flack for those comments, so he calls a friend who sets up a phone interview with God to forgive him his sins?

That actually WORKS?

His daughter has ridden her bike to work and Tony K takes spin classes, so it's okay that he promoted our deaths on national radio? What if Lance found out that the guy who killed that favorite son in Carolina had been listening to the Kornholer Show? Might that have changed that confessional phone-in?

Is it really so easy to be forgiven? Heck, I'm still trying to live down a suggestion made two years ago that women should pre-reg. If I get Lance to agree with me, can I get an invitation to the Tibco barbeque? PLEASE!?!

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I heard a bit of the Rob, Arie and Dawn show in Sacramento. I did hear Rob say that they were talking about crimes against cyclists. I think they realized it had gone to far into the negative by the time the callers were thinking up new ways to "get cyclists attention".

I later called station Manager, Jim Fox. Jim called and told me that he would review the tapes. He did and seemed genuinely concerned. Jim said he would talk with the morning show's producers. He was happy that at least Rob tried to defend the law albeit not the cyclists themselves. Anyway, I offered my info for the morning show if they ever want to get a "level headed" point of view from the cycling community. I am sure there is a better-versed person to do this than myself. If you would like to offer up your info for a potential on-air interview please let me know. kt

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So what that he takes Spinning classes. They are not CYCLING classes. If you want to dance on your bike, take a spin class. Once can also dance on the end of a rope. He is not excusable.

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close scrutiny

Before you go and blow a gasket - listen to Lance on Tony's show today:

http://www.stationcaster.com/player.php?s=65&c=580&f=45332

Tony apologizes for going "way over the top" and they have a real conversation about this important topic.

Tony even takes Spinning classes - his daughter commutes by bike sometimes. This is good stuff... I for one am now happy he went too far and came back around to give a large platform to bicycle advocacy and be as insightful as I've ever heard this doofus get.

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Glad you posted, because I was about to:

In ESPN radio's Tony Kornhole's rant on cyclists and the building of a D.C. bikelane earlier this week, he genuinely ADVOCATES automobiles running cyclists over, and then asks "Am I wrong?" I wonder if he has any comic insights on lynching or the African genocide?

Good thing the American radio-listening public are too intelligent to follow his lead.

The only positive note is that accomplice liability includes someone who encourages another to commit a crime, so if someone does get run over, Kornholer can also be prosecuted for second degree murder.

For those who didn't hear it, because ESPN apparently removed it from their archives, you can hear it on youtube...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7wnBoWOfAU

If it pisses you off too, let them know it! http://www.espn980.com/info/contact_us.php

Spread the word. This guy should be tarred and feathered. (And I'll accept accomplice liability if you decide to do it.)

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Public threats against cyclists.

Here in the Sacramento area, the 98.5 four hour radio morning show topic on Monday urged listeners to act out against any cyclists they see riding because they are "in the way of cars" and should "use the sidewalk, or expect to get hit, honked at, or have something thrown at them." Listeners then called in and added their suggestions of things to harm or scare riders also, which two of the three radio personalities on air then approved and added even added more ideas to. The danger this places all serious riders, kids riding home from high school or grade school, and people who commute or have no choice but bike to and from work is at the least, incredibly irresponsible.
Please feel free to email them at http://www.robarnieanddawn.com and voice your concerns, and tell them about the sponsors you will contact to voice your disapproval.

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